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Your "Best Before" Date
Posted 7/27/2012 3:39:00 AM

It’s Friday, time to hear your comments on the Colorado shootings from one week ago.  Lil blames the number of hours young people spend on mass killing video games.  Robert thinks we should pay more attention to the clues that someone is about to go off the rails.  Mr. John says had he been carrying a concealed weapon in that theatre, he would not have hesitated to take out the shooter.  Paul says he’d feel safer walking into a theatre where everyone had a gun than where only one did.  David says it’s too bad we hear more about the unsafe uses of firearms than about the safe uses.  Richard is afraid of stricter gun laws which will mean only the bad guys have guns.  Doug says concealed weapons do more than arm citizens, they put fear and doubt into the hearts of would-be criminals.  Wayne points out the loss of life at Dawson college was minimized because armed police intervened. Polytech, Virginia Tech and the theatre in Aurora had much higher victim counts because the shooter didn't stop until he decided to.  He aks, who do you want deciding your fate, an assailant or a responsible armed individual? Perhaps, like many, you would prefer to take responsibility for your own life.  Bob says look at Switzerland with a high gun rate and a low crime rate.  Switzerland, he says, has no standing army.  Young people are conscripted, taught to use a gun, and can keep it at home if they want. Others point out Switzerland has a lot less violence than the US to begin with.   And Joy says the best plan is just to live each day as if it was your last, because none of us know our “best before” date.  Have a great, safe, week-end.

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  1. Bill Murphy posted on 07/27/2012 07:09 AM
    Funny thing about mass shootings, they always seem to happen in "No guns allowed" areas. Nanny statist, like Bloomberg, as well as Obama can spout off all they want about whether or not the citizenry should have the ability to defend themselves to the same extent that they can, or what they can own, but the U.S. has the right to the use of a tool for self protection entrenched in their constitution. Which by the way is also one of the main differences between being a citizen, or a serf.
    1. The Infidel - Mr.John posted on 07/27/2012 12:54 PM
      @Bill Murphy Wanna bet that Obama and all those other "spouters" might be thinking about carrying a "piece?"
  2. Earl posted on 07/27/2012 08:53 AM This comment was edited by a moderator at 09:38 AM on 07/27/2012
    Good morning Bob.

    The "Political Correctness" we are inundated with daily in the media is mind numbing. Even the PC term "Gun Crime" of which there is no such thing, is enough to make me turn off the radio or TV. There are crimes WITH GUNS but a gun cannot commit a crime without a murderous perpetrator holding it. Neither can a car (often used to kill others deliberately) or a tree branch (club) or a baseball bat or kitchen knife. Millions of Canadians and others use firearms recreationally and in the US for self defense daily. In the self defense realm, seldom is the gun fired defensively. Just the presence of an owner can drive off a burglar or in the case of a much weaker woman, drive off a much larger rapist. Withour a firearm for defense a woman has little or no chance. 911 "dial a prayer?" The police NEVER can arrive in time to stop the crime.
    Further the media "covers up" the very real statistics that of the most dangerous countries with the highest murder rates per hundred thousand population, the heavily armed USA ranks a distant 105th putting to rest the myth that the US is most dangerous. ONLY "gun free" zones such as New York and Chicago or Washington DC have vastly higher rates of death by criminal use of firearms. Switzerland where every home is REQUIRED to have a firearm, is far and away the safest. Don't believe me? See:

    http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/07/18/10-countries-with-the-highest-homicide-rates/?utm_source=_BQCZ1WB8rbnlGV&utm_
    content=mlk13&utm_medium=email

    Bob replies: If there's no such thing as a gun crime, what then of vehicular homicide?
    1. Paul posted on 07/27/2012 12:51 PM
      @Earl I'm seeing some flaws in your arguments, Earl. Firstly, of the potentially deadly objects you mention - tree branches and so forth - only the gun is designed to do nothing but kill. If you use a car correctly you won't kill anyone, but if you use a gun correctly you will, so I don't think it's meaningful to point out that you can kill someone without a gun; I'd rather take my chances on someone trying to kill me with a toothbrush, for example, than with a gun.

      Secondly, statistics are often misunderstood. In the URL you supplied, Honduras is the nation with the highest per capita murder rate. Honduras also has one of the most liberal gun ownership laws in the world. Until 2007 there was virtually no control or limit to Hondurans' right to own and carry firearms. So if arming citizens makes a country safer, how would you explain the high murder rate in a country with such permissive gun control laws? We don't even need to go so far afield - just look at Canada and the U.S.: if arming the citizenry equates to a safer country, then the U.S. should have a lower murder rate per capita than Canada because they have less strict gun control laws. And yet the opposite is true; Canada with tighter gun control also has a much lower per capita murder rate. How would you explain that?
  3. Alan posted on 07/28/2012 05:41 PM
    Hey Bob, it is ridiculous that many people suggest that they want to be armed. Firstly it is bad enough that gangsters shoot with the accuracy of a peanut gallery but it is insane to put 100 untrained gun toters in a building where 300 people are gathered then someone sneezes and then these trigger happy nitwits start shooting willy nilly at some target that they couldn't hit if it was two feet in front of them while at the same time taking out 50 or 60 innocent people. Perhaps I would take my chances with the lone insane gunman.
  4. Don posted on 07/29/2012 08:45 AM
    Hi Bob,
    I see Earl posted some common sense. Paul is completely out to lunch. He says a gun is designed for one thing only: to kill. That is patently false. A gun used properly is a highly demanding sporting skill. Millions of people use them in sports activities daily. No gun has ever jumped up and killed anyone all on its own. Tree branches definitely have. I lost a nephew to a tree branch. A neighbor was killed by a falling tree. But I have personally used guns for over 60 years, even carrying mine to school along with a dozen or more others in kinder and more honest days. We had to unload them and lean them behind the teacher's desk until home time. No one thought anything of it. We raised money for sporting equipment by holding "Turkey Shoots" right on the school grounds with REAL guns. Even the RCMP would often come, not to supervise, but to participate! Only brainwashed individuals fear one of the safest sporting tools on Earth. I have attended many shooting events where up to 10,000 shots were fired. Not ONE SINGLE INJURY OR INCIDENT at any of these. Insurance is available for the shooting sports in the amount of $5 million for the insignificant sum of $10.00 per year BECAUSE accidents are so extremely rare. NO OTHER activity can make that claim. Only criminals deliberately kill with guns or any of the tools Earl mentions. And then there is the "self defense" use of firearms, absolutely necessary to remote or weaker individuals such as women and infirm.
    . Police can only arrive AFTER the fact and clean up the mess after drawing "chalk marks" around the disarmed victims.
    1. Paul posted on 07/31/2012 09:51 AM
      @Don Thanks for the Walnut Grove memories, Don. Maybe you should let the people in Colorado know that the solution to their problems is to give loaded rifles to children and stay away from trees. Or was there some other point in there you were trying to make?
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