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Death By Neglect
Posted 7/11/2012 1:36:00 AM

Looks like the final chapter in the death of Brian Sinclair.  This the 45 year old man who used a wheelchair. Double amputee.  He had a treatable bladder infection when he wheeled himself into that Winnipeg emergency room.  A doctor had referred Brian there and he checked in at the triage desk.  Then he waited for someone to see him.  He waited 33 hours in that emergency room.  Did anyone check on him?  They did when another patient told a nurse Brian looked like he was dead.  And, he was.  So, who is to blame?  No one, apparently.  The medical examiner first refused to assign blame, and now the Crown has ruled there will be no criminal charges.  This has not been pretty since day one.  The medical lawyers fought media attempts to broadcast the inquest.  Brian’s family had to fight for funding for a lawyer; the province wanted them to use legal aid.  Brian died in 2008.  Four years later, his family gets no satisfaction.  When you look at all the ways your life could end, don’t you hope you don’t simply die of neglect in a government regulated house of healing? Let me know what you think.

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  1. Robert posted on 07/11/2012 05:16 AM This comment was edited by a moderator at 06:16 AM on 07/11/2012
    You'd think the alternative was "take a number.". The next question I have is not how long till they noticed, but how long did it take for him to expire when he went to the desk? But even then hospital employees should be more observant. Either that or have a computer system in place to say who is still stuck in triage and for how long? And starting to put out... A yellow alert (Star Trek reference) if they have been there for more than... 3 hours let's say. And a red alert for more than... 6 hours. Needless to say priority for children and patients who require immediate children.

    Worst part, the 33 hours before someone noticed, if someone introduced Ralph Klein's third way policy, it could easily have been 33 days.
  2. fred posted on 07/11/2012 08:10 AM
    Government neglect, hmmmm, you expected what????
    Wait, is it hospital personals responsibility to get re-elected now as well???
  3. Earl posted on 07/11/2012 08:29 AM This comment was edited by a moderator at 11:03 AM on 07/11/2012
    Bob, if you think that is bad, just wait until "Obamacare" kicks in full force in the USA. At present no one in the US is refused medical attention of some kind. With the massive forced tax on EVERYONE there, those who can't afford the massive tax (forced premiums) will not only get no treatment, they will go to JAIL to die of whatever ails them. There aren't enough doctors now. Just like the "140 clinics" promised by Redford, there won't be anyone to staff the hospitals and clinics. They'll have to open Alcatraz again to house the "criminals" who can't afford the huge medical tax. Worst part, under Obamacare, the 33 hours could be a LOT MORE than 33 days. Of course after the monster uneccesary power lines those on fixed incomes will die of heat this summer and freeze in the winter.
  4. Joy posted on 07/11/2012 09:13 AM
    How on earth could a guy sit in the emergency room for 33 hours and not be seen by a nurse or doctor? Did they go out and call his name and say, "Oh well, I guess he left" when he didn't answer? He left, all right.
  5. Paul posted on 07/11/2012 09:23 AM
    When you insist as a country, like North Korea and Cuba in only having one provider of health care and no accountablity, this is the type of service you get. Don't lke it? To bad!
    I have generally been happy with the Medical care in the hospital in Alberta, but have had bad experiences in emergency. I remeber a few years back my daughter banged her head. We went to emergency and waited, and waiting and waited...and finally left. There was ALWAYS going to be someone deemed to be of greater importance than my toddler. At the very least, the system needs to have a system that tracks how long you have waited.
  6. David W. Lincoln posted on 07/11/2012 11:32 AM
    Hospitals started having a good reputation thanks to Florence Nightingale. Before her efforts, the reputation of them was atrocious.

    I daresay it is a case of back to the future.

    So, whom is willing to take on the bureaucracy, and ask, "How many have to be on the payroll so that doctors and nurses get paid for their work?".
  7. Bob $$ posted on 07/11/2012 12:45 PM
    I remember a couple of years back, I had to take my younger brother (in his late 50's) in to emergency in Calgary. He was in severe pain throughout his whole upper body,..so severe that he couldn't sit up in a chair and had to lie down on the reclined car seat to get him there.
    Not one to be inclined to take any pain killers, in fact advocating against their use, it was everything I could do to get him to even go to the hospital.
    6 hours of waiting in the standard hospital waiting chairs did little to make his visit any better.
    When he finally did get to see someone,...they looked at him,..in very rough condition, with his full beard, and his longer unkept hair and had decided that he was just there to get some drugs and there was nothing wrong with him. Well, nothing could be further from the truth.
    My brother is a practising naturopathic practitioner, with 15-16 years of experience, multiple modalities courses, and a vast knowledge of natural health care and natural treatments, who has helped many, many people over the years in his consultations.
    What "he" DID NOT know, was that a few days earlier, when a rolling office chair had moved out from under him, that he had fractured/cracked a vertebrae in his lower back when he went to sit down and landed on his butt "hard" on the floor.
    Multiple "waits" in various doctors offices and even pain treatment centers did not reveal his problem and it was not until a "nurse" reviewed his nuclear bone scan, did "she" reveal that he had a fracture....even the doctors did not catch it.
    What was really disturbing though, was the treatment/observations in this "emergency" ward which were not based on anything except the way he "looked" in his severe state of pain to the "caregivers". It only reviewed his and my observations that you may not get helped at the "emergency",...only because of the way you look!
  8. Glen S.R. Woytuck posted on 07/12/2012 01:19 AM This comment was edited by a moderator at 11:31 AM on 07/12/2012
    While there were no criminal charges laid from the investigation, I expect there will be a lawsuit by the family. Perhaps that proceeding will allow the press to record it, and we'll find out why a tragedy like this was allowed to happen.
    The way you emphasized "GOVERNMENT REGULATED" in your editorial on TV, one could get the impression you'd prefer it unregulated. I don't think that is the answer. I don't think anyone knows the answer, but it definitely is NOT the system in the USA. They spend nearly twice as much of their GDP on Health Care, and have slightly worse results (According to a repor by the WHO that I read.)
    There are approsimately 30 countries in the world that have better results than Canada, (Not sure of cost.) perhaps we should study the top 10 or so and see what they do right that we do wrong instead of just complaining about the inadequacies of our system.

    Bob replies: That is not what I meant by "government regulated". I was just pointing out that once again, the government had the overall responsibility for a boondoggle.
    1. The Infidel - Mr.John posted on 07/14/2012 11:48 AM
      @Glen S.R. Woytuck Maybe,...and I hate to say this,...but maybe we need a Dept. of Boondoggles.
      It would be very busy,...very busy!
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