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Posted 6/6/2012 1:40:00 AM

One of the calls I get is from employers who need staff.  Even with the unemployment rate what is, there are jobs available.  One employer even told me people walk past his help-wanted sign to get to the unemployment office.  Maybe that’s why the Harper government is changing the EI rules.  At the very least, we need a better match-maker to pair the unemployed with the opportunities.  While that seems like a good idea, I’m hearing from those on EI who are just afraid the government is looking for a way to cut them off.  They don’t want to be forced to take a low-paying job that will keep them off the streets looking for a better one.  At the same time, I’ve heard from employers who have to bring in foreign workers, because the local unemployed don’t apply for work.  The unemployed tell me those jobs don’t pay enough.  Clearly there is an employment disconnect.  May I help?  If you have a job opening, put a short notice on my blog at 630ched.com.  In just a couple of lines post a job description, wage, hours, skills needed and your phone number.  Let’s see what happens.

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  1. Bob $ posted on 06/06/2012 03:07 AM This comment was edited by a moderator at 03:16 AM on 06/06/2012
    Quite a few years ago, I was installing some business awnings on a hotel in a smaller town (5000 population) that I had built for them. I needed a hand and thought I would hire local temp help as I was from out of town.
    I asked a young man who used to sit in the coffee shop I saw every morning if he was looking for some work, could he give me a hand. He said he wasn't "interested", he was on welfare and couldn't work. The extra money would "screw up" his welfare. There didn't appear to be a thing physically wrong with him. Investigation later pointed out that there wasn't, he just didn't want to work, why?, he got FREE money, for NOTHING! I heard he went into politics later.
    I checked to see if there was an employment office in town. No. But there "was" a welfare office in town. I phoned and asked them if they had room for an extra desk. "What for?" they asked. I suggested, maybe they could put one in and have somebody sit there and be available for businesses who had jobs available and were looking for people to work. They were NOT amused!
    Few years before this, I had encountered 2 guys in a bar, my home town then, that were looking for the welfare office. They were travelling on a vacation, on their way from Quebec and needed money for their trip to Vancouver. I directed them to a farm field 8 miles outside of town. I never saw them again. Probably good for me!

    Bob replies: I love it!
  2. Richard posted on 06/06/2012 04:42 AM
    E.I. should be run like an insurance policy - if you claim more than average then, your premiums should go up and/or the payouts should go downI . If you claim less than average your premiums should go down and/or your payouts should go up.
    E.I. is a cash cow for the Government. E.I. should be a break even entity, Instead, the government is using it to increase revenue - that is the problem with E.I.

    I have lived and loved Alberta for over 20years. People here are so self righteous about attitudes to work. We have the powest employments rate in the country, but we still want to beat up on people who CANNOT WORK.
    Yes there are people abusing the system, and there are people who are working who are abusing the system, by avoiding lawful taxes.I'll apologise now for misplaced apostrophes in this and future postings.
  3. Jen posted on 06/06/2012 07:36 AM
    Two points: I was involved with a couple who couldn't hold jobs, they would get bored or feel they were underpaid, or fail to show up for work, cause they didn't feel like it and get fired, etc., They went to the food bank and received a box of food. They said how ashamed they were that they had to do this and were assured that it is ok, we all need help now and then. For this couple, and many more like them, this was a license to continue to use it. The young woman received a welfare check and I took her grocery shopping. She commented that "they give you so much stuff and such good stuff at the food bank, we are thinking we will just go back there and then we will have more money for ourselves" I replied that "they should leave the foodbank for people who REALLY need it".
    My second point is how many companies don't even bother to interview young people anymore. A comment I hear frequently is that they "require too much babysitting and they are unreliable" Many companies are offering all kinds of work and incentives to their older employees to stick around because they don't require babysitting and are reliable. And they went to school when teacher's handed out zeros for incomplete or assignments not handed in.
  4. Barbara de Visser posted on 06/06/2012 08:29 AM
    Barbara de Visser- Employer for Ethan Allen in Edmonton. I have Two positions for Interior Designers/Sales Consultants. Full time - 780-444-8855.

    I have had a few applicants, but they all cancel the
    Second interview to find out their skill set. I have one applicant
    From the Phillipines who is ready to come over with everything
    in place to be a foreign worker. She is willing to come on the next
    plane if I agree to sponsor her. She has all the skill set needed and
    the experience. Not one applicant here in Edmonton is as hungry for
    Work as this person from the Phillipines.
  5. Robert posted on 06/06/2012 08:38 AM
    Let me tell you something about EI and job hunting.

    I left an $18/hr job of 8 years for a $26/hr job, only to be laid off because of the season changes. I applied for EI and doing job hunting where I even applied for a job at Tim Hortons, a part time job at XS Cargo. Both paid less than $18/hr, but a job was a job. I never heard back from either one and I was fighting EI for 3 month before I got my first payment.

    And I went through 3 jobs since that time. 1 because I couldn't handle the gore, 2 because of their Dilbert and Stalin style management. I finally have an on-call job, repeat on-call, which is supporting a mortgage, 3 kids under 5, my wife and her parents.

    And her dad has been fighting EI for the past 7 months because he is trying to retire due to medical reasons. All they have been doing is giving him the run around, literally giving him a dozen different stories from 3 different sources.

    Did I mention that Home Depot offered me a job for only 10 hours a week? How the hell am I suppose to feed 3 kids for a job that's only 10 hours a week?

    Morals of the story are:

    1- Just because you have these qualifications and experience doesn't mean you can instantly get a new job even for the winter.

    2- Not any job will do especially if it involves the well being of your children.

    3- Common sense says Harper has got to go, and no one, not even you, Bob, has been able to prove otherwise.
  6. Robert posted on 06/06/2012 08:54 AM
    And there is something else about EI, Bob.

    During the 3 months they were neglecting to pay me, I tried calling them to tell them to get off their sorry butts and actually do their job they were suppose to have been hired to do. I decided to be sneaky and call them at 8 O'clock to ensure I could get through. Often I get the message that says that they are not open yet. I try again 15 seconds later and the message says it cannot connect my call due to high call volume and hangs up on me. They don't even give me the option of giving them a call back number or an email address to get back to me.

    When I finally get through, I often keep them on the line so they can talk to my father-in-law as to what the hell is going on with his EI. And it's another run around. And he is the type who wants to work, but his body can't.

    It's at the point where he totally understands why that one guy took hostages at WCB.
    1. Bob $ posted on 06/07/2012 08:24 AM
      @Robert Robert, let me help you there with your phone problem.
      These "offices"...I don't know why they call them that,.hmmm. have rotary dialed phone system, so if you call 555-1234,...the next number might be 555-1235,...
      Keep calling "all of them" till you get through,...you're not doing anything right now anyway. When the phones start ringing all over the "office" and nobody answers them, the "boss" when they you catch them between coffees and lunches might get suspicious and figures somethings up....make a morning or day of it.
      Better yet,...phone the head honcho of the department all day and complain,...about 20 times,....they for sure will not want to take those calls.
  7. Bob $ posted on 06/06/2012 09:36 AM
    Sorry Bob to bug you again,...but I really have to share this work/employee story.
    I had a guy come to see me in my shop looking for work,...three days in a row.
    I finally said OK...be here at 8:00 tomorrow morning. At 8:00,...no guy.
    About 9:30 am he shows up. I told him, "You're late!" He says: "I am?" Then he wants to know if he could get an advance so he could buy some smokes. I looked at him for a few seconds and said OK,...
    He then asks if he can borrow the company van to drive to the convenience store a few blocks away, so he could be back "quicker". I ask him if he has a drivers license,...he says "No, but I'll be right back". I look at him again for a few seconds.
    I gave him the ten bucks for the smokes and then told him not to come back....he took the money, and was pissed off and couldn't believe I fired him.
    Prompted a famous shop sign: " I heard you're hiring,....can I get an advance!"
  8. Joy posted on 06/06/2012 09:58 AM
    There are many jobs that don't pay enough. Try living on a fast-food wage or a department store wage, Bob! Look at the disparity between office wages in the private sector and in the government sector. Look at the cost of housing versus the dollars per hour at Timmy's or McDonald's. No wonder they are always hiring. When a person working forty or more hours a week has to spend everything he has on rent and food, it's discouraging. Then we say to him, "Get a better job. Get an education!" Well? Who is left?
    1. Jennifer posted on 06/07/2012 06:05 AM
      @Joy Fast-food wages have never paid for basic cost of living and I have been working now for more than 30 years. I work in a government office and took a large pay cut from my private sector job so that I could have more work life balance. I cannot even count all the free (unpaid) hours of overtime I worked in the private sector. Now with a union, the employer has to pay OT but guess what - when they pay, they do not need so much OT. That suites me just fine.
      The Conservatives have some nerve messing with the EI - what happened to the EI surplus they were talking about after the last time they changed it!
  9. fred posted on 06/06/2012 10:53 AM
    Bob, the most telling aspect of our work history is that in the dirty thirties, regardless of how badly you needed help, you did your best to not take handouts while today it is considered your entitlement!
    In those days you worked at what ever you had to for your family and even if the door was open you did not go into your neighbors house. I wonder if values like these are gone forever?
    1. anon posted on 06/08/2012 12:31 PM
      @fred And in those days, sexism was the norm, racism was rampant, and world had just finished one world war, to move on to another; today everyone is "entitled", none more then CEOs who take mutli-million dollar severances while their company lays off thousands of workers. The world is very different today then it was 30 years ago, let alone 80. Please try and keep up
  10. RolandA posted on 06/06/2012 05:32 PM
    Hi Bob
    We are looking for Painters.
    - They require own transportation ( work in Nisku )
    - no experience required
    - starting wage $ 17.50/hr with minimum 40hr/week

    My phone no. 780-464-0873
    Thanks
    Roland
  11. Ron posted on 06/06/2012 07:24 PM
    Bob, i have two companies and trying to find a person is very hard that has drive and will show up for work, and leave there aditude at home.
    I have been looking for someone to do landscaping property maintenance, tree work and concrete work.
    starting wage is $15 with incentives and for the right person they could be at $25 with-in 4 weeks.
    Must have own transportation and be able to drive company vehicles.
    they must be fit to do these jobs as well.
    Area of work is Sherwood Park and Edm SE

    Ron
    Ph.780-919-1920
  12. AlisonG_9414 posted on 06/06/2012 08:37 PM
    Hello Bob.

    I got laid of 4 weeks ago due to management restructuring, I was making $25/hr, I have 11 yrs business admin experience, I have put out over 30 resumes in the last 3 weeks and that was the hardest 30 jobs I have had to try to find that offers the best wages and at that the best was $23/hr. My philosophy is you are going to get what you pay for, I am 47 yrs old and a mature person raising 3 teenagers that I am trying to instill the highest or morals in and not to mention feed them but who can do this at $12-$17/hr. Some emplyers expect their receptionist to do everything in the office include cleaning the toilet for low wages now It would be nice if employers would hire on experience, maturity and willingness to work rather than what they feel is a fit wage is, after all it is the receptionist that is the hub in every company, they can actually make or break you. they are the first impression to every customer/vendor you have. I have worked since I was 14 and have been on EI 2x in my life this beng the third. i am a hardworking, ethical, and high morals personality, if this is what you are looking for to run your office or reception area comment back to my comment here.
  13. Carolyn posted on 06/06/2012 09:31 PM This comment was edited by a moderator at 03:30 AM on 06/07/2012
    Hi Bob
    I am 40 yrs old and still have to apply for EI. You would think that at my age you would have a full time job. I don't have a full time permanent job yet but am working on it by getting experience from working for temp agency's and temp pools such as for city of edmonton and others, to have that office background that I can put on my resume. I have been doing it this way since probably year 2000. I am trying to get ahead but it seems I can't. Maybe that's why people are walking past help wanted signs because they want to get ahead. Everyone has a different reason why they need EI. I would rather work then be on EI. EI should have better incentives for when people need it, so they can get that great paying job.o
  14. AB_Person posted on 06/06/2012 09:40 PM
    Bob Layton,

    I am currently looking for work in the Human Resources Field as an HR Generalist. I possess an MBA degree from the University of Alberta.
    I have been looking for work for over a year. It has been very frustrating for me to hear of employers in this province who can’t find employees when I have been actively looking for work and received very few interviews and no job offers. I am willing and able to relocate for a suitable opportunity.
    1. Senator George posted on 06/07/2012 08:31 AM
      @AB_Person What the heck is an HR Generalist,...and how does it apply to Humans?
  15. Jenny W posted on 06/07/2012 06:40 AM
    I have a BA in Psychology, Master's of Educational Psychology and a PhD in International Education. I currently do not qualify for EI. I am currently on other forms of assistance because I cannot get an ongoing job. I have dumbed down my resume and tried all sorts of "tricks" Tips etc. No one is hiring me for my qualifications, experience, or otherwise. am a Canadian citizen. I have not been picky about pay, type of job but I would like a job that is at least somewhat related to my knowledge and skills. I am sick of not working!!!!!
    1. The Infidel - Mr.John posted on 06/07/2012 08:37 AM
      @Jenny W What kinds of "job" are you looking for? Just as an observer, your degrees appear to be supportive in a "profession" you would work in, unless you would "teach" in these areas, but it unclear to me where you would "work"?
    2. BarbM_7422 posted on 06/07/2012 03:04 PM
      @Jenny W Ditto - I'm in the same boat, but without the degrees, just loads of experience and recommendations - still no joy, even though I too, have dumbed down the expertise and experience. So if the employers aren't looking for degrees and they aren't looking for experience, what the heck are they looking for ??
  16. Cheryl posted on 06/07/2012 08:23 AM
    Hello Bob,

    My two sons who go to high school have been applying all over Spruce Grove, Stony Plain for work to work weekends and holidays. They want steady employment to pay for college. And they have reliable transportation as I do all the driving. They have references, a really good first resume and have applied ALL over the place! Not even McDonalds have gotten back to them! They show up to places , clean, dressed very well and with resume in hand. NOT one business has given them a chance! Shame on this society for wanting foriegn workers and not giving the younger ones a chance!
    1. Bob $ posted on 06/08/2012 08:27 AM
      @Cheryl Hmmmmm....very confusing Cheryl. Especially since Steven Harper and Jim Flaherty have told us the Canadian economy is doing GREAT!! There should be Gazillions of jobs out there waiting for people to fill them. But, you might want to get a jump on it. I heard there will be 30,000-40,000 government workers looking for work....and then you got those 2000 GM workers that will be looking for work within the year,....and then you got those 125,000 per year immigrants who will be looking for work.....well,...maybe NOT them!
      Have any experience driving those large 3 story Oil Patch dump trucks like up in Fort McMurray?
  17. BarbM_7422 posted on 06/07/2012 02:55 PM
    I'm a middle-aged professional who is sick and tired of hearing how employers are clamouring for staff in this province. I can't tell you how many jobs I've applied for in my own field over the last several months only to rarely hear back, and the interviews I do get, I'm always asked, "You have so much experience, are you sure you won't get bored? Or, "Will the pay be enough for you?" Needless to say, these are always followed by a "Sorry" email or phone call, and "Can we keep your resume on file for the future?" I highly suspect that the latter is just to soften the blow. The jobs that do suit the amount of experience I have aren't responding because I don't have a degree tagged to my 35 years of experience. I've also applied to jobs that do just manage to cover the bills, but nothing else, only to be told I don't have any retail experience, server experience, no "fill in the blanks" experience, so I really am suspect about employers saying they aren't able to find someone, especially a Canadian. And no, I am not on benefits because the 3-month temporary job I did get did not give me enough hours. A friend who is in the same position, told me that it's not sexism that's the problem when it comes to hiring now, but ageism. I doubt that we are not the only ones. Plain and simple, we need a job, a decent job, any job and we can't find one in this province of supposedly desperate employers! Oh yes, if I see one more commercial for how Service Canada has upgrading programs for my age group, I will scream – Alberta is not part of the program!
  18. Glen S.R. Woytuck posted on 06/07/2012 10:37 PM
    I can see both sides of this issue. I agree it is an INSURANCE policy, and someone who collects annually should be paying ridiculous premiums. Why should my premiums subsidize someone who only works 6 months a year?
    On the other side, I was out of work for a VERY long time, and being over 40 with no "formal' education, finding a job above minimum wage was not easy. Also, being experienced in some fields, employers won't even consider me for entry level positions. I finally found someone willing to give me a try at a decent wage, and I've been here ever since. My experiene is that most Canadian employers want employees to arrive with 10+ years experience, and work for crumbs. The ability to hire foreign workers at a 15% discount will be VERY popular.
    Conclusion? Canadian workers AND employers are not realistic in their expectations. If employers would be willing to pay more for quality, they'd get it, and willingnes to train, or at least interview under/over qualified workers may result in finding a great employee that isn't perfect on paper.
    1. BarbM_7422 posted on 06/08/2012 07:13 AM
      @Glen S.R. Woytuck Love your last sentence, says it all and is great advice for employers.
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